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davenms
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"How much of religious history was influenced by mind-altering substances?

 

RICHARD J. MILLER"

 

http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2013/12/religion-as-a-product-of-psychotropic-drug-use/282484/


 

 

 

Any thoughts on this? I found it interesting and plausible, probably because I once enjoyed traveling without leaving the farm....8)

January 2, 2014 at 9:59 AM Flag Quote & Reply

george
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I believe that is a distinct possiblity...I also believe schizophrenia had a role as did epilepsy...

January 2, 2014 at 12:08 PM Flag Quote & Reply

TommyD
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Having been no stranger to hallucinogens when younger, and having discovered the profound meaning of life several times (should have written it down), I can understand the need to invent a god. It allows one or many to substitute an explanation for what is unknown, as yet. It also comforts ppl who lose loved ones, and reinforces moral ethics.

As there will always be a continually advancing understanding, there will always be new questions; seemingly unanswerable. Ergo, mankind had to invent a god; and would do so again in case of a meltdown that caused cultural memory loss.

That ppl flaunt their superstition, and insist that it is the only way to live, is only proof of their ignorance.


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"If voting made any difference, they wouldn't let us do it." ~ Mark Twain.

January 2, 2014 at 9:30 PM Flag Quote & Reply

george
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man created god in his own image...

January 2, 2014 at 11:54 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Charlie
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george at January 2, 2014 at 11:54 PM

man created god in his own image...

Very possible...someday we may know for sure

January 3, 2014 at 12:40 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Charlie
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Then again, we may already know

January 3, 2014 at 12:41 AM Flag Quote & Reply

george
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Chimpanzees are capable of looking in a mirror and recognizing themselves...many humans look in the mirror and see god.

January 3, 2014 at 11:14 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Jenny
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Entirely plausible, IMO.

Spirituality has value, but being a blind slave to it is dangerous. It's nice to have spiritual comfort at times. It's warm and fuzzy. Making it into a master to be blindly obeyed, and worse, forced upon other, is nuts, and dangerous.

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I'll give up my cast-iron cookware when they pry it out of my cold, dead hands.


Jenny the Bear (grr.)

January 3, 2014 at 11:18 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Charlie
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Plenty of evidence that a self-made god worships his maker

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If you don't know where you are going.....any road will get you there.

January 3, 2014 at 11:33 AM Flag Quote & Reply

george
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Nature provides all the awe I seem to need.

January 3, 2014 at 11:37 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Charlie
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Well said

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If you don't know where you are going.....any road will get you there.

January 3, 2014 at 11:40 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Rob
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"A song that they sing of their home in the sky,  Maybe you can believe it if it helps you to sleep, But singing works just fine for me".   James Taylor 

Sweet Baby James.

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If I lost every material possession in my life, the only thing I would miss would be my slippers.

January 3, 2014 at 12:06 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Jaytee13
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"I believe that is a distinct possiblity...I also believe schizophrenia had a role as did epilepsy..."

 

I don't know about schizophrenia but I can tell you about epilepsy now.

With an epileptic seizure: You are sitting there, blink your eyes and it is four hours later, you have injuries you can't explain. Don't think that can help build religous ideas.

January 3, 2014 at 12:16 PM Flag Quote & Reply

TommyD
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"The good news is there’s no devil.
The bad news is there’s no heaven.
There’s nothing.”
—Kerry Packer, speaking about the time he spent clinically dead
for 8 minutes after a severe heart attack
(quoted in a Reuters News Service article on Dec. 27, 2005).

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"If voting made any difference, they wouldn't let us do it." ~ Mark Twain.

January 5, 2014 at 8:35 PM Flag Quote & Reply

george
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Epileptic seizures present many different things...and there are various types of epilepsy.  I was actually thinking of Paul being blinded by the light on the road to Damascus...


http://www.epilepsy.com/node/978179


The Bible says that Paul's conversion experience was an encounter with the resurrected Christ. Alternative explanations have been proposed, including sun stroke and seizure. In 1987, D. Landsborough published an article in the Journal of Neurology, Neurosurgery, and Psychiatry,[10] in which he stated that Paul's conversion experience, with the bright light, loss of normal bodily posture, a message of strong religious content, and his subsequent blindness, suggested "an attack of [temporal lobe epilepsy], perhaps ending in a convulsion ... The blindness which followed may have been post-ictal."[10]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conversion_of_Paul_the_Apostle

January 5, 2014 at 11:23 PM Flag Quote & Reply

TommyD
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Paul: "Wow, I had better change my ways. I don't want that to happen again."                                                      So, he joined the god crowd, turning the unknown into something explainable through superstition.

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"If voting made any difference, they wouldn't let us do it." ~ Mark Twain.

January 6, 2014 at 11:04 PM Flag Quote & Reply

cherie
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I think you can have a transcendent experience without attaching a bunch of hokum about Jesus to it. 

January 15, 2014 at 5:32 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Kimimela
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george at January 2, 2014 at 11:54 PM

man created god in his own image...

Not only did "Man create god in his own image." But God must be skitzophrenic or something since he both Loves and Hatesd and Nurtures and Destroys at the same time   

:P

:lol:

January 22, 2014 at 12:26 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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